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#1 User is offline   shmoky 

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 11:14 AM

OKAY ……… I’m going to play the Devil’s Advocate here. I have a close friend that sent me these links. If you are into Conspiracy theores…. These are for you. They sure got me thinking. Just do some H1N1 searching on these sites and you will get a LOT of negative feedback on the H1N1 and the global conspiracy to kill of 80% of the world population.

AGAIN: I’m just playing the Devil’s Advocate here NOT MY HUMBLE OPINION.

http://www.infowars....-extermination/
I didn’t watch the video just read the article. A short quote from the above link:
Lanctôt warns that the elite and their minions will introduce a compulsory vaccination that will contain a deadly virus and this will be used specifically as a eugenics weapon for “massive and targeted reduction of the world population.”

http://www.infowars....ndemic-lawsuit/
This is the woman that filed charges with the FBI against the World Health Organization.

http://www.infowars....ive-h1n1-virus/
Swine flue vaccines contain live H1N1 virus. Lots of link in this one for more info.

http://www.infowars....d-against-h1n1/
Presidents daughters NOT getting the H1N1 vaccination. Read some of the comments about this one.

Any comments are appreciated.

shmoky

Found another site. This one pretty well covers it all.
http://www.davidicke...tent/view/26440

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#2 User is offline   Ian Forbes 

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 12:31 PM

I don't believe in Conspiracy theores, but I do believe that pharmaceutical companies continually try to sell us what we don't need.
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 12:58 PM

I wonder though if this is something made intentional for big drug companies to profit?

I would also bet there are cures for many diseases but curing they only get profit once, whereas treating people every year or whenever they get endless profits.
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 02:23 PM

I believe that for those with weakened immune systems or preexisting health conditions, that some form of immunization has a place. Otherwise I fully believe that one risks having themselves lessen their own bodys natural resistance by continually taking various medicines or supplements.

I discount most conspiracy theorys.

I believe that healthcare companys are in the business of ensuring they have continued customers, at our expence.

ODG

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 01:05 AM

Why do we never hear about gargling salt water and flushing your sinuses ?
All you hear about is the shots.
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Posted 01 November 2009 - 10:53 AM

Green tea and lots of rest and sleep.

The be-all, end-all of cures.

This whole swine flu scare tactic is just that, a tactic to induce fear and uncertainty.

It's a huge cash grab, nothing more. Anyone remember the bird flu? What happened to that?

Next year, it'll be something else. Always the case.



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Posted 01 November 2009 - 02:55 PM

I don't care if the drug companies are making money off the injections. I don't care if the media is hyping this flu for sales. Quit frankly I am scared of coming down with this flu.

I've had chronic bronchitis and pneumonia too many times in the past. I remember all to well how difficult and irritating it is to breathe properly from both along with the dizziness and puking because of coughing so hard. I do not want to ever feel like that again. We are now into November. November and December are my worst months for allergies and asthma. By Christmas I am usually sick with bronchitis.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed so that I can get a shot either tomorrow or thursday and then avoid anyone with the flu for 2 weeks after that. I really don't want to be that sick this winter.

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 05:08 PM

At the turn of the century the average male in Canada could expect to live to the ripe old age of 47. Now the average male can expect to live 80+ years. The conspiracy is not going well.

I checked out the first link at the start of this thread. Holy crap what a bunch of nut cases.

I was H1N1ed on Thursday (vacinated). I am still here but I guess I better write my will tonight as I am going to expire before daybreak. I have to say though, I feel pretty good for being on my last legs.

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 03:59 PM

View PostWillowbarkus, on 01 November 2009 - 03:55 PM, said:

I don't care if the drug companies are making money off the injections. I don't care if the media is hyping this flu for sales. Quit frankly I am scared of coming down with this flu.

I've had chronic bronchitis and pneumonia too many times in the past. I remember all to well how difficult and irritating it is to breathe properly from both along with the dizziness and puking because of coughing so hard. I do not want to ever feel like that again. We are now into November. November and December are my worst months for allergies and asthma. By Christmas I am usually sick with bronchitis.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed so that I can get a shot either tomorrow or thursday and then avoid anyone with the flu for 2 weeks after that. I really don't want to be that sick this winter.

Carole


Let us know if you manage to get immunized for the H1N1. With the shortage of vaccine they are priorizing the people who show at the clinics. Children, pregnant women, and those with compromized immune systems only are getting done. I believe they are also immunizing folks living on reserves. That leaves a lot of us out.

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 09:12 PM

I did get the H1 shot today. They did ask me questions and then they asked me what meds I took. They said I did qualify and gave me a ticket with a time on it to come back for the injection.

They were not giving out the regular flu shot today. I was told to wait until 10 days after receiving the H1 shot before getting the regular flu shot. It sounds like they won't be giving out the regular flu shot until the end of November when they give everyone else who wants it the H1 shot.

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 08:58 AM

View Postliptugger, on 01 November 2009 - 01:05 AM, said:

Why do we never hear about gargling salt water and flushing your sinuses ?All you hear about is the shots.


liptugger.....you just need to turn off your TV and tune into your friendly neighbourhood fishing forum! :P


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Posted 04 November 2009 - 10:59 PM

Just to give folks out of the area a little insight as to the mentality of the various "health" units: seasonal flu has been running around town now for the past 7 weeks, (this according to the local pharmacist, who I suspect is credible) yet the seasonal flu shots are just now available this week !!

This suggests to me that there are more horse's asses in the "health" system, than there are horses. It's the same every year. The "health" units base the timing of the release of the seasonal flu stuff for some other mythical la-la land, rather than up this way.

I lucked out: I became part of a study by the pharmacy college at UBC, based on my risk factors, sponsored by my local pharmacy. I managed to get the seasonal flu shot yesterday, in the pharmacy, merely by agreeing to become part of the study. Seasonal flu shots for the general publick will be made available at the end of November, by which time, half the town will have it anyway. (dark humour, but quite possibly accurate)

Wifezillah and I drove out to Telkwa this afternoon, (8 miles) waited less than 7 minutes for our H1N1 shots, and drove home. I called the clinic earlier this afternoon, and reserved 2 tickets for the hour between 4 and 5. We arrived at 4.35, and were out the door after the wait, before and after, by 4.50

Here's hoping we can remain virus-free during the tme it takes for these vaccinations to "catch".

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 12:36 AM

If you're a pro athlete, you should have no problem getting your H1N1 shots. Just ask the Calgary Flames.
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Posted 06 November 2009 - 08:40 PM

Went to the clinic at the Convention Centre in Penticton today. My daughter is due any day, her husband is a pharmacist and I have an autoimmune liver disease. My husband came too as he lives with all of us. They screened us twice, sent a couple of folks who didn't fit into the most at risk category packing and we were in and out in an hour and 45 minutes. All 3 of us got both the H1N1 and regular flu shots. No ill effects except both of our arms ache a bit.

The clinic was very well run and moved folks through very fast. Plus no one had to stand outside as they had the line in a zig zag pattern with chairs set up at all the bends. Coffee was handed out free of charge.

The clinics for next week though, have been cancelled due to lack of vaccine. If more becomes available the clinics will be rescheduled.
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Posted 07 November 2009 - 11:17 AM

I do have to agree with this article and the opinion of Dr. Richard Schabas.

http://www.cbc.ca/he...h1n1-media.html
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